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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Oct 29, 2009 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

At least in my case, I had finally browsed for long enough to understand the inside jokes. Also, you may think that as a senior university student, I would have more work to do than ever, and while this is true, such a condition also requires more poignant procrastination.

Also, just as I was getting into posting here, there was a series of really sappy yet beautiful posts about how much the forumites appreciate the community - stuff that gave me the chills (in that good way).

In addition, coming here has been like diving into a positive feedback loop for becoming un vrai Deadhead. In large part due to the informative essays and listening suggestions, I am more immersed now than ever in the material of the Grateful Dead and can only really find satisfaction in learning more by coming here.

Rukind.org is a really nice site for the gearheads and musicians but this is THE outlet for the brilliant ramblings of crazies. And that is why I am here.

Thanks. Have a wonderful day.

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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Oct 29, 2009 2:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

"Poignant procrastination" - that is just great!

Always remember...
hard work pays off in the long run,
procrastination pays off right now.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Oct 29, 2009 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

To be honest, I waver between poignant and pathetic! It is a fine line when you are that Deadicated.

I also much prefer your adage about procrastination than this one:

Procrastination is like masturbation... in the end, you're only fucking yourself.

Except that this is a group project I should be working on so under the current scenario I am ...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 29, 2009 3:34pm
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Well DP, with posts like these, independent of your age, you are defn one of "us", and though it has taken years to get to the point where I can say this with great comfort and confidence, I do now "belong" and recognize I will not be unduly criticized for taking "liberties" along these lines...so I suppose that just goes to show, eventually, if you stick around long enough, just like Bob and PP, even if they fire you they let you back in.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Oct 29, 2009 4:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Thanks for the encouragement. I will continue to spew at will.

Just you wait till I post the "poem" I wrote a couple years back while taking the trip that is the 8/27/72 Dark Star... :)

p.s. If you were wondering my DNA comes from the Jews and Christians of Eastern Europe. They were probably all pagans before they chose their respective religions and stopped ritually consuming those lovely Amanita mushrooms.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 5:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

I'm one of the newbies, unconnected as far as I know to anyone else here . . . just having a mid-life crisis, I guess - suddenly remembered as if waking after a long sleep why I used to love the Dead. Oh yeah. Only really saw them a few times in the early eighties and it's as if somehow it didn't fully "take" at the time even though the shows were a great time. So long story short I've rediscovered the Dead. I've been lurking here but usually not joining in for, I guess, the obvious reason that I don't usually know what you are all talking about.

Most days I browse the last few discussions and just click on whatever somebody recommends to listen to ... I don't often have opinions informed enough to contribute, but I'm learning.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 30, 2009 5:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

First off, Welcome Aboard! Glad you took the plunge. Your story is not unlike my own and I suspect many others here. Went to shows but then kind of lost interest as life moved on and the band no longer existed. I mentioned something about a concert in a conversation with a colleague in 2005 and he told me about the site. I lurked for about 2 years, just following the conversations, learning a little about the personalities and learning a lot about the band and frankly music in general. I didn't really think I had much to offer to the discussions during that time so I sat back and watched. What I learned after I started posting was that most of us are still on steep parts of the learning curve and that asking a question often results in very interesting conversation. I also learned that in general there are really good people here who care not only about the music but also the others who love the music. I have had the pleasure of meeting 3 forumites in person and in all cases they were very positive experiences. Admittedly the encounter with High Flow was only positive because of his wife, he is pretty much a buffoon. My only word of caution is watch out for William Tell. In addition to being the Forum Prime Minster, he is quite the ladies man. Wait, you went to shows in the early '80s? Hmm that might keep him at bay. Hope to see you around.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Oct 30, 2009 5:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Welcome aboard!!

I myself stopped listening to the GD around end of 80's and recently rediscovered them about 2 years ago after hearing live "Bertha" on the local radio - went out and bought the CD - did a few google searches and ended up here.

If you have been lurking long enough you will probably realize that we don't much know what we are talking about either -- except for a handful of truly knowledgeable and dedicated ones. Dire & Will Tell are obviously not in this group, myself either.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:36am
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i always know what i am talking about - it just happens to be that what i happen to be talking about generally amounts to gerbilanic nonsense

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:04am
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Methinks the Prime Minister will be angered by our responses.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:08am
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And Lord knows we don't want to Anger the PM

Morning Elbow - we got some nice bright sun up here for a change - might have to quit work early so I can get some fall yardwork done before the crummy weather comes back tomorrow.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:19am
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Good morning to you too Jim. We had the wettest October on record, however yesterday was nice. Looks pretty cloudy today and more rain for the weekend. Despite the rainy weather I am enjoying my first true autumn in 14 years.

I will pick up your TDIH show later. All the discussion about the NSB from Alfred yesterday reminded me that I hadn't listened to that show in a while. Maybe my favorite acoustic set. While the NSB is great, the IKYR is outfreakingstanding.

This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2009-10-30 13:19:54

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 5:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

sorry for duplicate post.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:38am
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"I don't often have opinions informed enough to contribute..."


pretty much sums up most of the miscreants on this forum. welcome, and please join in when the feeling strikes.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:56am
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Thanks for all the welcomes! Yes, early eighties and then sporadically thereafter, last show I saw was September 1990 in Philly. I don't have much recollection of that one really, but the pieces of it on youtube are pretty awful. I saw shows in New Haven, Hartford and New York - and maybe Boston but I can't remember for sure between about '81 and '84. I don't really know what got me suddenly listening to them again, maybe it was Obama talking about China Cat Sunflower, but all of a sudden I was drawn back in. my family thinks I've gone crazy. I'm out of touch with college deadhead friends and should really try to find them again. I feel like saying, Now I get it!! now that it's too late ...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:07am
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Earlier this year I actually tracked down my college deadhead friend who gave me my first tapes and turned me on to the band beyond radio cuts. Kind of told him the same thing.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:32am
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Obama mentioned China Cat Sunflower? is that his favorite GD song? I hope he didn't use it to prove a political point...

Given his aptitude at massaging our psyches with his speech I wouldn't be overly surprised...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:03am
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it is never, ever too late to get it.

(well, except in the case of WTell regaining any semblance of rationality, but that is another issue altogether)

In fact, i am still looking for it. have no idea where is left the damn thing!


p.s. Obama mentioned China Cat?? I must have missed this one - damn!

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:24am
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I just mean too late to hear them live ... I try not to think about that 'cus it's kind of heartbreaking, and I reproach my younger self for not having a clue the enormousness of what I was hearing at the time!! I had a college housemate who followed them, and when they came around, he handed out tickets freely and we all piled in the car, some people acting like it was a religious pilgrimage and some of us (me) just going 'cus it was going to be a good time. I enjoyed the partying and the music but I can't say I really "got it" at the time.

I heard Obama said his favorite song was China Cat. I'm not sure where I heard that, or if it's true. I wondered if he tried to pick a song that was sort of . . . not too druggy sounding for the president of the United States to admit to liking. Then I looked up the lyrics to China Cat LOL.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:39am
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ahhh - got ya. misinterpretation error on my part.


i will have a whole new respect for our pres is he really does like that tune :) would be right up there with Clinton's sax playing

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Poster: Mosquito Date: Oct 30, 2009 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

... echoing but with a slightly different point:

It's never to late to get them. Granted, you can't go see the Dead now and even the Dead aren't the Dead, but the fact of the evolution has always been there.

The shows I went to were in the '80's too, but living in the center of the continent and always having other things to be responsible for meant that I only got to a few shows. Fast-forward to Fall 2007. Living in the Bay Area, I was bored one Sunday and knew Phil was going to be at the Greek. At the last minute, I say "Well, why not? Let's go see what Phil's up to."

Crossed the BA, parking sucked, walked in late, prolly on the third song. Go in, find a spot and start checking it all out. I'm checking out the crowd and the people on stage. I recognise most of them up there, but go "Who's that on keyboards? And who's this guy on keyboards and guitar and singing?" After the show I'm like, "So who *is* this guy??" It wasn't a great show, but I was still impressed.

So I find out the last show was in Southern California and the next show is the following Saturday... at Red Rocks ... followed by Santa Fe ... I'm thinking, "I could do it." But no, I didn't even do that in the '80's or '90's when I was young and it was the Dead. This was 'just Phil' and some other guys and it didn't sound 'right'. But, but... but it was still good and it was interesting and, regardless of everything else it was still the same crowd and the same songs.

Damnit. By Monday I was hooked again. I shouldn't do it, but I *could*. I could drive to Red Rocks and Santa Fe and get back to work the following day. And my car was good and I had disposable income (and the economy hadn't crashed yet). On Tuesday I knew I shouldn't but I also knew I would. Whirlwind weekend and then they went too far east. But then I had friends from high school on the east coast ... one show's on the weekend and 'in range' in upstate New York. I do it. Another great weekend.

And then 'those young guys' have their own bands... and they're pretty good in their own ways. And New Year's Eve! And Phil's going to Portland, and an ex who I wouldn't mind visiting lives there ... and Mardi Gras and surprise! Deadheads for Obama! And Denver and LA and they're going to close the Warfield?? And Ratdog and the Mule and Mickey and Donna (yes, Donna) and and Grisman in a sleepy town on the coast and Wake the Dead (Celtic Dead??) and and and ... oh, why had I zoned out and away from the music for so long?

And WTF? None of this is the Dead. Yes, the Boys (and Girl) could still pull it out and put it down but it wasn't the same. *But* these young guys and these other other guys really were finding new things in these old songs I'd heard hundreds of times and I was liking it.

Somewhere in all of that I realised I'd been sad and afraid that sometime soon we'd be left at 'it's all over now' and I just didn't want to face that. I also realised that the Dead always changed, it'd never been like it was before and that now it's not just one band that I might get lucky enough to see but a decent bunch of them.

Yeah, the Dead is dead, but now the Dead is much more than the Dead, so it's never going to be too late to get the Dead.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 31, 2009 10:38am
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Very inspiring!

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Poster: Mosquito Date: Oct 31, 2009 12:29am
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Oh, I forgot to post this:

Billy said that Obama said that China Cat is his favorite: http://www.cincygroove.com/?q=node/1236

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 31, 2009 10:42am
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Thanks for finding that, I knew I read that somewhere about China Cat. Cool...

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 5:26am
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I'm one of the newbies, unconnected as far as I know to anyone else here . . . just having a mid-life crisis, I guess - suddenly remembered as if waking after a long sleep why I used to love the Dead. Oh yeah. Only really saw them a few times in the early eighties and it's as if somehow it didn't fully "take" at the time even though the shows were a great time. So long story short I've rediscovered the Dead. I've been lurking here but usually not joining in for, I guess, the obvious reason that I don't usually know what you are all talking about.

Most days I browse the last few discussions and just click on whatever somebody recommends to listen to ... I don't often have opinions informed enough to contribute, but I'm learning.